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DeLoreans wanted for 'For the Love of Cars' TV Show CH4
I am amazed how presentable Chris Nicholsson looks in this. Someone from the makeup department must've given him a makeover before they let him on screen. Smile
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Show was pretty good I thought.

Front suspension mods? Any thoughts ?

Nick
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Jaguar X-Type
Range Rover Sport SDV6 "Rufus" (Mrs H's motor)
DeLorean DMC 12 Vin#2862

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Lower control arm "strengthening" is an utter myth. I stand to be corrected but the only failures occur around the weld seam for the main bush always caused by roll bar bushes in poor shape and/or corrosion. The arm doesn't need torsional rigidity and this is the only thing that plate provides. I can just hear the naysayers reading my post but the arm, as designed, is strong in the planes in which it needs strength - just because it "looks" weak doesn't make it so... to me, it looks like an economical use of material to keep un-spring weight down and ease of assembly up.

And what the hell was his beef with doing the clutch?! You undo it, the gearbox pretty much falls out. You can't say that for most cars! I suspect he got caught out by the sh!t shields, but once you know they're there, it's easy with a ratchet spanner to remove them and they don't need to be replaced.

It looked like he got hold of a turbo clutch too, not a stock Espace one.

The "recall of a recall" bit was annoying too - the frame extension could fail if you hit a big enough pothole. That's about it.
Martin Gutkowski
DeLorean Cars
http://www.delorean.co.uk
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Allegro door handles :?: :?: where did that come from? getting confused with Lotus me thinks. Personally I still think pulling the engine/box out as one is easier (but thats probably just meMr Green ) Darren looked good, quiet the gent 8) , great interview with Kathryn, just wish it had been a longer programme.
Chris
Membership Secretary DOC UK
2021's DeLorean event: http://www.deloreans.co.uk/forum/showthr...p?tid=6056
VIN#15768 Ex VIN#4584
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Well done to all involved.

Did the club proud and gave a splendid show at the end.

10/10

Mr P
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stunned_monkey Wrote:Lower control arm "strengthening" is an utter myth. I stand to be corrected but the only failures occur around the weld seam for the main bush always caused by roll bar bushes in poor shape and/or corrosion.

Corrosion is quite likely for that part though, as it is exposed to spray, road salt and grit. I put in the much thicker Henninger arms mostly for that reason (though they weren't much more than NOS arms, and there weren't any with the original parts find). Was later glad I did though, because Ed's 'pseudo-wishbone' LCA braces (for improved handling) require strengthened arms.

Quote:And what the hell was his beef with doing the clutch?! You undo it, the gearbox pretty much falls out.

Yeah, that baffled me as well, strange criticism to come up with when there were plenty of legitimate ones to chose from.

In all a good program though, generally positive and engaging.
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Chris Williams Wrote:Allegro door handles :?: :?: where did that come from?

I'd heard years ago that the locks (not handles) were the same as the Allegro so I suspect whatever source I heard/read that from is the one they're getting confused with.

Rich Hanlon is DeLorean AND Allegro owner so perhaps he can clear up whether this is mis-information or fact...
Regards,

Chris Hawes
DOC 138
Ex owner of VIN 5255 Grey, 5-speed
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The keyhole ring and barrels look identical to that of a late metro/ maestro/montego on the face.

Seeing as most of the parts for them were off older cars, it wouldn't surprise me if the locks were allegro.
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Just watched it myself. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Sure there was a couple of screwed up face moments, but this was all more than made up for when I noticed the most important aspect I could catch from the whole programme...

He had his sun-visors on the right way round!!!!....just like me. :wink:

(Awaiting the rolling of eyes and exhausted sighs lol!)

Round of applause to all involved. Job well done.

...now I'll need to do something about my front suspension arms. They've started buckling. I first became aware of it just the other week when it was pointed out to me.

I need to get back to work on LEX. I'm trying to get her prepped for Dorset, and I'm hoping to get her through the MOT in September with a pass instead of a fail. Brakes are letting me down. Sad
Rissy
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May 1981 vin#1458 "LEX"
Grey, Flapped, Black
Chassis: #1073
Engine: #2839

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And the soundtrack was great as well!
Membership Secretary DOC UK
2021's DeLorean event: http://www.deloreans.co.uk/forum/showthr...p?tid=6056
VIN#15768 Ex VIN#4584
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TheOriginalMrP Wrote:The keyhole ring and barrels look identical to that of a late metro/ maestro/montego on the face

They are from an Austin Metro. I know, having just replaced mine this year after the attempted break-in.
VIN 4494, Grey interior, 5 speed, October 1981
DOC 757
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I know, he mentioned the allegro almost as many times as the Delorean last night!

Noted, as owner of both I can quite categorically say the handles are different - Allegro ones are the classic BL handle as fitted to the Allegro and Land rover Discovery and virtually everything inbetween!

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/AUSTIN-ALLEGRO-P ... A/$_35.JPG

However that said I suspect the mechanisms ARE the same: I replaced a worn Delorean one with a Metro one - in fact a few years ago I a spent a while going round the local scrappy getting myself a bucketful of Metro door mechanisms befre they all dried up! Unusually I have never had to have the doors apart in my Allegro but I would expect allegro and Metro mechanisms are the same, classic BL parts-bit raiding!

In all a vrey well balanced show, yes the included the breakdown but managed to make light of it and didn't dwell on it too much, included plenty of the back-stroy, made a very positive impression of the whole project, explained about the ridiculously short trimescales and the achievements that WERE made against impossible timescales, and gave an honest account of the car. They involved people who knew what they were on about, and avoided many of the myths.

Excellent show - haven't sen any of the rest of the series but pakced a lot into 50 minutes!
Richard Hanlon
Derbyshire
DOC 393

1981 DMC-12 VIN 06126
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I thought the 'recall of a recall' was because the lower ball joint nuts weren't drilled to allow a split pin to fit through - so a recall was ordered. Unfortunately that nuts that were supplied to replace them with had not been annealed so were hard and brittle and shattered when drilled.

I had also heard of this one previously from one of the former DMC top brass.
Richard Hanlon
Derbyshire
DOC 393

1981 DMC-12 VIN 06126
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Rich Hanlon Wrote:However that said I suspect the mechanisms ARE the same

To be fair, there's only so much complexity you need in any car door - either a cable or a rod, and Leyland, crap though they may have been, did get some things sufficienctly "right" - like locks.

What annoyed me most about the comment was that it flew in the face of something JZD mandated: "anything you can see or touch must be bespoke" (we'll ignore the door locks, interior lights and glovebox catch), and to this end, unique door handles were fabricated to blend in with the rub strip. How many other cars have this feature? Certainly not the Esprit! It's one of the main reasons the DeLorean has aged so gracefully IMO.

Rich Hanlon Wrote:I thought the 'recall of a recall' was because the lower ball joint nuts weren't drilled to allow a split pin to fit through - so a recall was ordered. Unfortunately that nuts that were supplied to replace them with had not been annealed so were hard and brittle and shattered when drilled.

The nuts were never drilled, it was a replacement of the orignal plain nuts with castle nuts, which they made a horlicks of by supplying the wrong nuts in some cases, and then they got paranoid because some started cracking.

http://dmcnews.com/bulletins/SC-04-11.81.html

http://dmcnews.com/bulletins/SC-04-12.81.html

http://dmcnews.com/bulletins/SC-03-1.82.html
Martin Gutkowski
DeLorean Cars
http://www.delorean.co.uk
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good program, but i agree with the bottom arm thing, the only way you could bend them is if you twat a kerb so hard.... and if they bend thats a good thing! as it saves the mounts on the frame.
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