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Vin 11766 for sale
#31
It won't be the cable as you can select all gears other than first. I think it's somethign inside the gearbox, unless the auto-to-manual conversion has something we can't predict.
Martin Gutkowski
DeLorean Cars
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#32
Hi Guys,

I had looked at this car but as you say it is a conversion. I noticed this thread when looking at it:

http://www.deloreaneurotec.co.uk/forum/ ... =19&t=3321

Dont know if it has any bearing on your problem? But it was also in the garage for gearbox/clutch when I enquired.

Hope you get it resolved soon. :wink:
Vin 5921
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#33
first has now consistently put in an appearance.(see the other thread)

it seems to require a lot more effort than the other gears (which might explain the gear stick issue?)
Simon Wood
DOC 748
VIN #11766
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#34
well, as expected it failed the german MOT, but surprisingly no mention of the non functioning speedometer?

there was the normal stuff regarding the lights but it turns out the stainless brake lines are illegal in germany and need to be changed.

im happy having a go at various repairs, but i draw the line at the brakes! so im probably going to take it down to Wolfgang Hank(any one come across him?, hes been very helpful over the phone) so I may as well get him to give the gearshift a going over too.
Simon Wood
DOC 748
VIN #11766
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#35
I understand that a lot of EU countries are introducing "MOT"-equivalent legislation to outlaw anything which deviates from the original spec, even if it is an upgrade. :roll:

There was a threat of that happening here too, but i think it was overruled last month. Could have been a major issue for us, let alone car 'modifiers'...
Richard Hanlon
Derbyshire
DOC 393

1981 DMC-12 VIN 06126
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#36
the german ones are particularly bizarre.

you can get a set of stainless break-lines approved for use in germany and from what i can work out the only difference is they come with a piece of paper with an official stamp on it stating this fact. (in germany everything boils down to collecting paperwork and stamps!)
Simon Wood
DOC 748
VIN #11766
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#37
It's in areas such as this that I am actually grateful for common sense attitude taken by the ministry of transport. If only health and safety was in the same league.......

The hoses on your car are probably a set of mine. I can ask to see what it'd take to get the certification?
Martin Gutkowski
DeLorean Cars
http://www.delorean.co.uk
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#38
stunned_monkey Wrote:The hoses on your car are probably a set of mine. I can ask to see what it'd take to get the certification?

i'll ask wolfgang what the difference is, but Ed at delorean europe might also be able to help you with that, he has a TÜV approved set listed in his store
Simon Wood
DOC 748
VIN #11766
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#39
Quote:there was the normal stuff regarding the lights but it turns out the stainless brake lines are illegal in germany and need to be changed.
:roll: Improved brake lines = 'MOT' failure :roll: I'm sure Martins are the same but the ones we supply from HEL Performance are also TUV approved should they be those ones.
http://www.brake-lines.co.uk/certification.html

Chris
Membership Secretary DOC UK
2021's DeLorean event: http://www.deloreans.co.uk/forum/showthr...p?tid=6056
VIN#15768 Ex VIN#4584
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#40
Chris Williams Wrote:
Quote:there was the normal stuff regarding the lights but it turns out the stainless brake lines are illegal in germany and need to be changed.
:roll: Improved brake lines = 'MOT' failure :roll: I'm sure Martins are the same but the ones we supply from HEL Performance are also TUV approved should they be those ones.
http://www.brake-lines.co.uk/certification.html

Chris

lol, tell me about it. the guy doing the inspection genuinely said without a hint of sarcasm, that i could fit rubber ones and that would be acceptable. Shock

they also listed the handbrake as a fail as you could keep pulling the leaver back after it had reach its maximum braking force. i think this is just because of the adjustment to make it work better on hills.
from what i could work out, how much force the brake itself is applying (ie how well its actually working) is largely irrelevant. what is important is that if you are pulling the leaver backward it must be continuously applying more force to the brake! :roll:

that's interesting about the certification though, i'll check that out. if i can wave a some official paperwork at them maybe that will be enough.

the bureaucratic systems in germany are just all setup to check paperwork, it doesnt matter how bonkers whatever you are trying to do actually is, if you have all the correct stamped bits of paper then that is fine!
Simon Wood
DOC 748
VIN #11766
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#41
I believe the brake line approval thing relates to having a rubber outer sheath over the stainless braid - something my hoses don't have. I've never bothered getting the TUV approval but have visited TUV as a customer back when I worked for a network solutions provider. They were in the Portsmouth/Southampton area.
Martin Gutkowski
DeLorean Cars
http://www.delorean.co.uk
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#42
http://www.delorean.eu/catalog/product_ ... _id=104033

TUV ones about Eur10 more expensive than non-TUV ones from Ed...
Richard Hanlon
Derbyshire
DOC 393

1981 DMC-12 VIN 06126
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